Lets talk about making 'ardkore!

This forum is too slow and dead, lets itch it up my selectah!

Lets talk about making 'ardkore tracks on the cheap, on the PC.

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I've been trying for years to make tunes and still haven't got anywhere

Though I'm starting to figure out a few battle plans atm, especially now I've got one of these babies:-
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/pro_keybo...icrokontrol.asp

Plus I've noticed quite a few jungle tunes have stock DX7 voices, so I'll have to get mine hooked up to the pc

Hello m8 !
great site, very interestin info on the Altern8, one of my fave acts in the underground. I saw That microkontrol some months ago and i think its very good for helpin doin tunes on pc, I love this music style & i'm startin to produce on my computer with the help of an m-audio keyb midi controller & a rhythm programmer, of course i would love to have an akai sampler, a juno, a tb 303, a 808, a 909, a korg legacy, a...... aaaarrghhh, stop it now i'm gettin sick ! =)
btw i'm gettin to have a sound that i like for this style usin reason, acid & soundforge software, some cool vsts are out there such as the Juno, the absynth, the legacycell, the MS-20, an alpha juno x, but i feel this is not the proper way to b done, it would b the best to get those great pieces of old equipment, what u think?

nothing like having all the real toys...but theres the big bottomless hole in the pocket that comes with it

luckly i dont drink so save £££££££'s///theres always something new/old to buy out there

Zitat:

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Originally posted by DexOdrin
Hello m8 !
great site, very interestin info on the Altern8, one of my fave acts in the underground. I saw That microkontrol some months ago and i think its very good for helpin doin tunes on pc, I love this music style & i'm startin to produce on my computer with the help of an m-audio keyb midi controller & a rhythm programmer, of course i would love to have an akai sampler, a juno, a tb 303, a 808, a 909, a korg legacy, a...... aaaarrghhh, stop it now i'm gettin sick ! =)
btw i'm gettin to have a sound that i like for this style usin reason, acid & soundforge software, some cool vsts are out there such as the Juno, the absynth, the legacycell, the MS-20, an alpha juno x, but i feel this is not the proper way to b done, it would b the best to get those great pieces of old equipment, what u think?

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Cheers for the compliments

303, 808, 909 I've got all those...unfortunatley they are all of this type:- http://tinyurl.com/cjyls

I just had a play on my MC-202 today. Instantly I got stonking big phat sounds, high beeps, resonant stuff and more out of it

And its easy to play with the settings rapidly and simulatiously.

I think I'm going to use it to attempt my next tunes

It does have a lot of downsides as well though :-
* Hooking it up to the pc - I need a better/longer cable
* Voice settings are as high tech as a pencil and paper :lol
* Saving the sequence has to be done by out/In-putting to/from my miniDisc player
* And all the slider tiddling isn't saved like in a soft-synth

But...for the type of sounds it does, and those are quite varied, it does sound much better than a soft-synth IMHO

Hello m8s

check some of my tunes here ---> http://trucous-lou.blogspot.com/

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Are all the tunes yours or just the Dex ones m8?

to make hardcore 92 style you need to study US and UK hiphop. just for samples and stuff.

1991 Hardcore: 130bpm-140bpm
1992 Hardcore: 140bpm-155bpm
1993 Hardcore: 155bpm and rising

Beats:
merge together 2-4 breakbeats, most of the time the breakbeats were sampled either from a hiphop record (you somtimes had "bonus beats" on the EP) or other hardcore records of that time. but least of the time the breakbeat came from its raw sauce, a 1970s funk tune.
microscopic editing on breakbeats weren't really done until Jungle had come in, a little slice here and there won't do any harm. If you want add 808/909 hits over the top. or a james-brown style 'uh' noise is another good one.

Bassline:
most were sampled, Juno2 obviously had some meaty bass but if you've not got a juno then just sample bass sounds, don't forget the classic sinewave for real sub-bass. for authentic oldskool sound, puprosly have the bassline out of tune with everything else... Im not saying ALL producers back then were tone-def though just... most of them (Yes, i have my tounge firmly in my cheek!)

Synth Stabs:
nothing really needs to be said, they're easy, they're all familier, drench them in reverb/delays. If anyone needs some good classic synth stabs PM me, I'll try and do the same with breakbeats and other samples.

Vocals:
go on an acapella hunt, don't timestretch, if it's not in time, pitch them up!! as for rap vocals, you're only really using them to fill in the void, find some public enemy pellas, don't bother looking for ultramagnetic MC's pellas though because they don't exsist!

Strings/Piano:
M1 or if you don't have a real one, get the VSTi

FX:
horns, sirens, wooshy air sounds, bleeps, cartoon sounds, blah blah. don't just add FX for the sake of it add them within reason and don't over use them.

Structure:
This I could talk about forever so i'll edit this l8r on as it will probably be quite lengthy :S

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